This Gallup poll says that 41% of people believe that global warming is exaggerated.
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Posted on 12 March 2009 by Josh Cordell
This Gallup poll says that 41% of people believe that global warming is exaggerated.
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March 12th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Well, looking at the company that climate change keeps, I am not surprised. Powergrabbing fearmongers.
March 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Very well could be.
However, I thought this was a blog about Love for the Truth that is in Jesus Christ. What does global warming have to do with that? Or am I missing something?
March 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
The goal of the site is to point people to the truth. The most important truth is Jesus Christ. So accepting the truth that is the gospel message is priority number one. We also believe in standing for the “the truth” on other matters.
As Christians, we should be a light in the world. That light shines in the darkness of lies and brings the truth to the forefront. If “man-made global warming” is a lie, we want to stand against it, If Islam is a lie, we want to stand against that, if abortion is a lie (in that we are told it isn’t murder) again, we want to stand against that.
Hope that helps.
March 13th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Sounds good
March 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
first of all- what kind of expert opinion can you actually offer on global climate trends? are you a scientist? are you doing climate change research? have you been following the warming and cooling patterns for millenia?
and more importantly, why in the world is this an issue that conservative christians rage against so hard? is it because the theory actually poses a threat to truth? to the gospel? to unborn children?
nope.
in fact, even if it were a total lie, the outcome of believing that human practices actually impact the environment only leads to more thoughtful stewardship- less pollution, less dependence on foreign oil (aka less war), new clean and sustainable technology, etc etc. why is this a bad thing?
March 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Erin, good questions. here’s a few answers:
“what kind of expert opinion can you actually offer on global climate trends?”
• I’m not an expert but I have an opinion. Here http://www.petitionproject.org/ are 31,478 American scientists (9,029 have PhDs) that don’t believe in man-made global warming. They have helped shape my opionion
“are you a scientist?”
• No. But I’m a Christian… and I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
“have you been following the warming and cooling patterns for millenia?”
• No. I’m only 30.
“why in the world is this an issue that conservative christians rage against so hard?”
• If it’s a lie, which many believe it is. Someone has to stand against it. The masses have bought into it. We as Christians must stand for the truth. It’s all that we have to offer the world.
“is it because the theory actually poses a threat to truth?”
• If it’s a lie, yes.
“to the gospel?”
• I don’t have an answer to that, haven’t thought about it.
“to unborn children?”
• Absolutely. In 2007 Czech President Vaclav Klaus said “Environmentalism is the new communism.” He went on to explain that as we give up rights under the name of “saving the planet from man-made global warming” we will find ourselves in a position much like a communist regime. One of those issues that could come into effect is population control. Where the government caps the amount of babies a family can have. So what happens if you get prego? You have to have an abortion. So yes, it is very much a danger to unborn children.
In answer to the last question; Much in the green movement doesn’t make economic sense yet as the technology has not caught up with the ambition. I’m not against a cleaner world, but in these economically hard times, we need to be realistic about what kind of restrictions we place on business. Man is evil, the end of dependence on foreign oil is not going to end war. Man is always going to go to war, until Jesus comes.
March 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I agree with you that it is economically draining and we are spending way too much money on a theory. Also who would not be for ending a dependency on oil??? This country would save money and stop giving to the Middle East if we got of oil. Please do!
March 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
It is an ironic discussion by Christians, who base their group identity in a number of things that are just as possible to be lies. Why question this issue but not so many of your own theological claims? I don’t judge you for questioning global warming; we should all question everything, but that includes our own religious doctrine. People (on both sides of most arguments) are quick to take a stand based on some group identity rather than real critical thinking.
I’m also curious what you mean by the suggestion that Islam is a lie. Everything else you point to in that sentence is questioning the existence of something, but I’m guessing you are not questioning the existence of Islam. Just looking for a little clarity on that.
March 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
I thought this was about the theory of global warming? That is why the topic is global warming, not theological doctrine discussion…
March 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Rachael, good call on Islam, i could have been more clear on that. Here are some of the lies of Islam:
• Muhammad lied to gain peoples trust before betraying them.
• Allah had no son.
• Matryrs (homicide bombers) will be rewarded with virgins in paradise.
• Isa (Muslim name for Jesus) never died on the cross, but had a look-a-like die in his place.
• Noah’s flood took place when Moses was alive.
• Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron.
those are a few of the lies.
as far as the irony of Christians discussing things that are possibly lies, it would be ironic for anyone to discuss things that are possibly lies then if you have a single belief at all. as what one beliefs to be true, another considers a lie.
thanks for commenting.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Top Japanese Scientists: Global Warming Is NOT Caused By Human Activity [Excerpts]
Western media completely ignores major report from Japan’s Energy Commission
A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped.
Unsurprisingly the report, which was released last month, has been completely ignored by the Western corporate media.
The government commissioned report criticizes computer climate modeling and also says that the US ground temperature data set, used to back up the man-made warming claims, is too myopic.
In the last month, no major Western media outlet has covered the report, which prompted British based sci-tech website The Register to commission a translation of the document.
Section one highlights the fact that Global Warming has ceased, noting that since 2001, the increase in global temperatures has halted, despite a continuing increase in CO2 emissions.
The report then states that the recent warming the planet has experienced is primarily a recovery from the so called “Little Ice Age” that occurred from around 1400 through to 1800, and is part of a natural cycle.
The researchers also conclude that global warming and the halting of the temperature rise are related to solar activity, a notion previously dismissed by the IPCC.
“The hypothesis that the majority of global warming can be ascribed to the Greenhouse Effect is mistaken.” the report’s introduction states.
Kanya Kusano, Program Director and Group Leader for the Earth Simulator at the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science & Technology (JAMSTEC) reiterates this point:
“[The IPCC's] conclusion that from now on atmospheric temperatures are likely to show a continuous, monotonic increase, should be perceived as an unprovable hypothesis,”
Shunichi Akasofu, head of the International Arctic Research Center in Alaska, cites historical data to challenge the claim that very recent temperatures represent an anomaly:
“We should be cautious, IPCC’s theory that atmospheric temperature has risen since 2000 in correspondence with CO2 is nothing but a hypothesis. ”
“Before anyone noticed, this hypothesis has been substituted for truth… The opinion that great disaster will really happen must be broken.” Akasofu concludes.
http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/35420
March 26th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I wouldn’t say that I have totaly bought into the entirety of the global warming movement. I would say that I say that there is legitimate proof for both sides. I would insist on erring on the side of caution and humility (in my own understanding). The gross over-consumption of our nation alone is disgusting. I understand the feeling of not wanting the government medling in our affairs, but the retributions of our actions do not just effect ourselves, but others. Not only in the case of global warming, but health and wellness. I see a very emphatic trend with your site for advocation of un-born children, and I applaud that, but what about advocating for the wellness of the people that are here right now. Yes it is possible that global warming is a scam (not my beleif) but should we not make every attem possible to stand up for the environmentally oppressed as Christians. If you subject someone that lives in Los Angeles to rediculous amounts of smog (and other carcinogens) are you not doing the same this as the abortion doctor or the girl that is having the abortion take place. The argument does not need to be does global warming exist, it needs to be do Christians have a responsibility to conserve…
Just my thoughts…and I’m sure they will not be popular here (I hope they are heard though) but I think it is important.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
bennett,
Thanks for your comments.
“The argument does not need to be does global warming exist, it needs to be do Christians have a responsibility to conserve…” - I disagree. Those are two different and important questions. In answer to the last one, yes Christians have a responsibility to conserve. We should be good stewards and responsible for the things God has blessed us with. That is clear. But the question of the truth behind the global warming propaganda is an important question as well. Here are a few reasons why. If it’s false, which many scientists believe it to be, then we shouldn’t be pumping money into a problem that doesn’t exist. Secondly, in a world where we are giving up more and more of our rights, we need to stand against lies that are used to take away those rights.
March 27th, 2009 at 10:46 am
I think where I am coming from is that nobody really knows if it is a lie or not. Everybody has their right to their opinion, and there is probably an equal number of facts for and against it. I think to say that it is definitely a lie can be unsubstanciated. It is easy to claim anything is a lie. A more balanced approach may give stronger footing for combating over-spending. While I don’t agree with the wasteful spending on anything, I beleive there is some good in the money that is being spent on it. I would probably compare it to our defense budget. While we would both agree that not every penny is spent wisely, I’m sure that we would both agree there is good in some of it. I’m sure the next argument would be that defense is a more viable expense (I would tend to agree) but some might say that the threat to the US is a lie (which I would disagree with). My point is that with any government spending ther will always be a hardline approach to either side, but I beleive that if there is a benefit in the outcome of the spending, there isn’t an enormous benefit of trying to persued people of an impossibly proven lie. By the way I am happy that you believe that Christians have a responsibility to conserve…that as you know is not always the case with an “it’s all gonna burn” approach to life. I’m glad you see balance in that. you are a good man Josh
March 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Bennett, your points are valid but let us not forget that lies in the name of science have subjected people to many atrocities throughout history.
Some of which include… Africans and Aboriginals were thought to have smaller brains and therefore not actual human but animal. Women having smaller brains than men and therefore being less intelligent,Jews Gypsies and many others being less evolved than Germans, used as a reason to justify killing millions of them. All these were scientific claims used to subjugate people. Many of these claims were adopted by the church and supported by questionable interpretation of scripture. When the Church swallows the lies of so called science the results are disastrous. Just look at how so many Christians and denominations have adopted evolution and the big bang theory as truth and the twisting of scripture that has followed in order to fit the two beliefs together, as well as those that have left the faith because of the “fact” of evolution. all because we desire to be looked at as open minded and intelligent by the world. Just like the Catholic church did when they forsook there scriptures(Isaiah 40:22) and jailed Galileo for claiming that rather than being flat the earth was circular.
Next thing you know they will tell us that we need to sterilize people in the name of environmental conservation or abort the retarded and handicapped to slow the earths population.
March 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
all good points Bennett. i think that one thing that makes the whole situation difficult is that you and i and others who care are talking about truth, right and wrong, what’s best for people… and so on. while the people who makes the decisions are thinking more about $$$$ and control. for example al gore who has made mad bank off of global warming and then been a hypocrite with his own lifestyle leaving a ginormus carbon footprint, yet he has been haled as a hero.
i’m actually a big supporter of alternative energy. however, my believe in smaller government doesn’t see it as a wise thing for the government to be spending ridiculous amounts of money on at a time when our country is going out of business.
March 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Josh…I agree with you. The money could be much better spent. Taxation should take care of over-consuming.
Noah…I also agree with you, I think that your examples are exactly what I was referring to being off-balance. “Science” is not always correct, and logic is also not always correct. That is where the balance comes in. I do not hold the belief that “there is no truth”, however I do believe that whenever we as Christians make unclaculated, or unequivicable claims it is easy for people to write off everything that we say. That is why I strive for balance. Not that I don’t have any opinions of my own, I’m just very careful to point out that it is my opinion, rather then truth or lie.
March 27th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
i think taxation is not only going to take care of over-consuming, but consuming in general. the 90% tax on bankers bonuses may be a sign of things to come… scary!
March 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
That was a strategic jab Josh…just looking for a bigger reaction out of you…so moderate. I like it…you are a good man…and smarter than my strategy’s. well played. I enjoy the convo, it’s good.
March 28th, 2009 at 12:41 am
haha, i’ve been meaning to overreact a little more… i totally missed an opportunity there
April 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Global warming exists. There is no getting around that fact, no matter how much is might inconvenience you, it is inescapable.
Human activity increases the amount of carbon in the atmosphere astronomically. This leads to an increase in temperature on the earth. The first truly dangerous manifestation of this phenomenon will be the melting of glaciers near Greenland. The cold water produced by the melting ice flows south, preventing the Gulf Stream from reaching New England or Europe. As a result, both of those areas would begin to look considerably more like Greenland and would render those areas inhabitable.
These melting glaciers will also cause massive amounts of flooding. Much of the world’s population live in areas under 20ft sea level. In a matter of years, more than a third of the population will be displaced because of the rising waters.
Also, the increased heat would catalyze the evaporation of water, so drought and extreme weather patterns would plague the earth. Scientists estimate that due to the damage to agricultural systems that could potentially be caused by global warming, the carrying capacity of the earth (e.g. how many people it can support) would be diminished from its current level of 8 billion to around 2 billion. What that means is that there wouldn’t be enough basic necessities such as water and food for well over 4 billion people.
I see this as more of a problem than the “murder” that is ostensibly committed against organisms with fewer cells than mold, but I suppose that I arrive at my political opinions through reasoning, whereas it seems that everyone else here does so through a decidedly unchristian interpretation of Christianity.
April 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
W.
The positions held on the issue of man made global warming have very little to do with Christianity, in fact the Bible mentions almost nothing even mildly related to the subject. The conclusions here are backed by reason and logic,Here http://www.petitionproject.org/ are 31,478 American scientists (9,029 have PhDs) that don’t believe in man-made global warming. Trying to cloud the subject by ranting about Christians is weird to say the least. In fact i don’t see a single person saying “well i don’t believ in global warming because of Christianity”.
The fact remains there is allot that is unknown about the warming trend on our planet or the other planets in our solar system that are warming as well, or are we to blame for that as well?
W. do you know for a fact that global warming is man made and that there is no possible way that its a solar cycle that is affecting the warming on other planets as well as ours. Just because you can regurgitate Al Gores movie does not make you correct. All you wrote about was conjecture but don’t call it a fact then give no hard evidence.
P.s. your reasoning skills need to be sharpened just a bit if your comparing mold to human babies be they embryos or infants, you just look cold hearted and unreasonable when you phrase anything that way. Lastly post your name otherwise it makes you look like you don’t have the guts to stand behind your positions, Okay “W”
April 6th, 2009 at 12:21 am
blah, more global warming posts!
y’all are really passionate about being against this, i take it.
like i’ve said in other comments, i don’t understand the whole “going green” movement in popular culture… but what i don’t understand even more is why someone would be so against it.
yes, these are economically hard times and the government shouldn’t be spending our taxes they way they are, but…
i don’t think that anyone can deny that humans are having a negative effect on this planet (one we are supposed to be stewards of, mind you).
you couldn’t tell me with a straight face that pollution is a lie.
ride a bike. car pool. don’t waste energy. eat less meat. turn off yr teevee for once. all easy and beneficial things to do.
April 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Mr. Johnson, I don’t think its really fair to say that global warming is based on conjecture. Let’s return to our high school chemistry. Carbon dioxide absorbs a considerable amount of heat, considerably more than oxygen or nitrogen. Humans put massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere through electricity generation, industry, and automobiles. As there is considerably more of a chemical that puts heat into the atmosphere, the atmosphere becomes warmer. As humans put that chemical into the atmosphere, it is our fault. That is irrefutable scientific evidence.
You discussed a petition, commonly referred to as the “Oregon petition.” to put it simply, that petition is a hoax. If you don’t believe me, follow these links. I think you’ll come to the realization that many of the “scientists” who signed the petition are made up, and many of the actual scientists are dead or agree with me on this issue.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980501&slug=2748308, http://web.archive.org/web/20060823125025/http://www.sciam.com/page.cfm?section=sidebar&articleID=0004F43C-DC1A-1C6E-84A9809EC588EF21, http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?fded5949-97a0-41e8-ad66-bba0fa15e61f.
There are scientists who believe that global warming is not caused by humans, but they are a very small minority of the scientific community and their theories about what is causing the world to heat up are quite far-fetched and seem to be born of convenience.
As for what I said about Christianity, this page is riddled with strange accusations. For example, you yourself said “When the Church swallows the lies of so called science the results are disastrous.” You claim that Hitler used science to kill Jews. What scientific justification was there? Indeed, Hitler used anti-Semitism to manipulate Christians into supporting him. You also attacked the Quran, the only holy scripture that has Jesus as the most quoted holy figure (including the Bible and Book of Mormon). There is a passage in the Quran about how Christians are the most similar to Muslims, because they worship the same God. Yes, science should not be abused, it should not be manipulated to oppress humans. Neither should Christianity. I am tired of having my faith hijacked by evangelical conservative “Christians.” I am tired of having it used as a pretext for taking away the right of abortion and the right to marry. I am tired of having the word of Jesus used to justify cutting welfare and foreign aid.
Fetuses are not sentient life. They are not alive, they are not human. It is absurd that anyone should be forced to justify the fact that an organism with fewer cells than a fruit fly (or mold) isn’t human. Obviously it isn’t human.
My friend, here the truth. Global warming exists. It kills 150,000 people every year (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Global-Warming-Kills-Each-Year-150-000-People-12676.shtml). It could likely kill many more, and we have a Christian duty to prevent it.
W
(P.S: Maybe I have some of those darn old-fashioned family values, but I’m not comfortably posting my name on the internet.)